{"id":881,"date":"2013-08-15T16:33:24","date_gmt":"2013-08-15T16:33:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trouble.org\/?p=881"},"modified":"2013-08-15T16:33:24","modified_gmt":"2013-08-15T16:33:24","slug":"fool-me-once-shame-on-shame-on-you-fool-me-you-cant-get-fooled-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trouble.org\/?p=881","title":{"rendered":"Fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, you can\u2019t get fooled again…."},"content":{"rendered":"

A letter I wrote to jeff moss, Mr. Def Con, about the last DC which I
\nattended a day and a half of. Lots of promise… but wow. Jeff (who
\nI’ve known over 20 years) responded and we’ll have a chat… I do hope
\nsome forward progress can be made. Various others have posted about
\nthis over the years, but I hadn’t been in a very, very long time and
\nit felt a bit more abstract.<\/p>\n

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Hi Jeff –<\/p>\n

I had a day and a half in Vegas and stopped by Defcon for the first
\ntime in a very long time. A friend of mine has a young son that was
\ninterested in the Rootz for kids program and had asked if I was interested
\nin attending next year with him, so I thought I’d check it out.<\/p>\n

The Rootz program seemed great; friendly folks who really wanted to help
\nout the young girls and boys who were there. Tons of young people in
\ngeneral abounded to help me feel even more irrelevant than I am, but it
\nseems all very positive.<\/p>\n

That is, until last evening, when I caught the end of Hacker Jeopardy.
\nIt all seemed to be in good fun, but the contestants were failing
\npretty badly, not answering any questions; for some reason the emcee
\nsaid something about what they were missing and asked one of the young
\nwomen on stage to remove her outfit. The guys standing next to me were
\nappreciative but bitter, and explained to the new guy that she would
\nnormally do a strip tease and remove all of her outfit for each question
\nanswered correctly.<\/p>\n

You have to be kidding me.<\/p>\n

I looked around and this seems to have been going on for quite some
\ntime; you yourself have tweeted about pix and video of the event being
\nput online. There’s an enormous full-page ad for it in the conference
\nproceedings.<\/p>\n

I don’t know if you get it – but you are the man now, no matter what
\nyou have been in the past. You’re on the Homeland Security Advisory
\nCouncil, you’re the ICANN security officer, and you founded both DefCon
\nand Black Hat. People – and especially young ones – look to you for
\nguidance and inspiration.<\/p>\n

DefCon is a professional conference. People go there for networking
\nopportunities, to meet old friends, to learn about the profession. As
\nsuch it’s an extension of the workplace and the behavior there reflects
\nthe attitudes of the presenters, attendees, and most prominently,
\nyourself. You’re aligning yourself with appalling and open sexism –
\nhow on earth can you condone this?<\/p>\n

I urge you to reconsider what this means to people. After the event last
\nnight I looked online and saw how women in particular have written felt
\ndegraded and abused by their DefCon experiences. You must have heard
\nat least some of this. If not, just search for defcon and sexism.<\/p>\n

Jeff – DefCon isn’t just a place where young boys can hang out and be
\nl337 anymore – it’s an institution. The security field is so bereft
\nof women already – I can’t even imagine why you’d put together such a
\nhostile environment for them to further discourage their participation.<\/p>\n

Please, put an end to this. You can do it with a wave of your hand, and
\nproclaim that women are welcome. Make DefCon a place where women and
\nyoung girls will be rewarded and want to go, not degraded and demeaned
\non stage with a bunch of drunk guys cheering on strippers.<\/p>\n

I certainly will never go again with this sorts of behavior going on,
\nand I doubly won’t go with my friend’s son. I hope you will take
\nsome positive action about all of this.<\/p>\n

dan<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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